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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Back in 1968, GD concerts fairly often included all five tracks from Anthem of the Sun. But after that, their concerts contained more of a mix of old and new material, and most of the later studio albums had one or two tracks that were seldom or never performed in concert.

So during what concerts did the boys play every track from one of their studio albums other than Anthem of the Sun? I know of two such concerts--one is pretty easy, the other (I think) pretty obscure.

There have been several concerts in which they've played all but one track from a given studio album. If you know of any of those, please feel free to amuse yourself and enlighten our community by citing them.

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Poster: vapors Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

My first guess would be Blues For Allah - I think all (?) those songs were played at The Great American Music Hall 8/13/75.

Edit: I see now that the last two songs from Blues For Allah weren’t played (Sandcastles and Unusual Occurences) So, after some research I’ll offer another guess:
Providence 9/15/73 – they played every song on Wake Of The Flood.

This post was modified by vapors on 2010-04-25 22:21:16

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

The track listing on One From the Vault includes Sand Castles and Unusual Encounters along with Blues for Allah.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Ah-ha! Well, then, if the judges will permit an appeal, I am angling for FULL partial credit!

You are saying the OFTV show does make it, right?

Then, if you were really serious about my "honor", here's exactly what I did when reading your post: "OK, best choice is Work, from May 70...(but couldn't pick a "day")...the other, is probably Aug, 75 (because I had the tape for so long, listened to it on the FM broadcast, etc., etc., and because it was sort of a "coming out" party for them and their record venture, etc.)".

Went to "you know where", tried "May, 70" with Work tracks, and bingo, then tried "Aug, 75" with BfAll tracks, but it failed...due to the diff in track names I assume (right?).

Hmmm, do I get partial for each or fine and disqualification for admitting it?

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Poster: vapors Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Ah ha! I thought that had to be the easy one. Thanks

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

You were right the first time, IMO, in that I'm pretty sure the performance of Blues for Allah includes the whole thing--or at least close enough to count. Congrats!

9-15-73 is one of those all-but-one shows, missing Here Comes Sunshine.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Good for you, D! I actually picked Aug 75 second too! That is, after scoring on May, 70 (albeit the judges are still debating my score...damn)...Hmmm, now if you are right with post 71, I have to again cry, "foul!" (but I think you are wrong, cause I just tried all the songs on Wake and it doesn't come up...again, the system may be failing due to how songs are listed...AHEM, another problem for the judges to sort out I am afraid).

Yeah, appears to be missing HCSS?:

"Beat It On Down The Line, Sugaree, Greatest Story Ever Told, Brown Eyed Women, Me & My Uncle, Ramble On Rose, Looks Like Rain, Deal, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, Bird Song, Playin' In The Band Mississippi Half Step, Big River, Row Jimmy, Truckin'*-> Drums-> Eyes Of The World*, Let Me Sing*, Weather Report Suite Prelude*-> Weather Report Suite Part 1*-> Let It Grow*-> Stella Blue, Sugar Magnolia*, E: One More Saturday Night"*

*done from memory

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

GAMH '75, according to the Wikipedia:

Side one

1. "Help on the Way/Slipknot!"(Garcia, Hunter) - 7:18
2. "Franklin's Tower" (Garcia, Hunter, Kreutzmann) – 4:32
3. "King Solomon's Marbles" (Hart/Kreutzmann/Lesh) - 5:20
4. "The Music Never Stopped" (Barlow, Weir) – 4:35

[edit] Side two

1. "Crazy Fingers" (Garcia, Hunter) – 6:41
2. "Sage & Spirit" (Weir) – 3:07
3. "Blues for Allah/Sandcastles and Glass Camels/Unusual Occurrences In The Desert"-12:35

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

the obvious one is probably 8/13/75, featuring all of Blues For Allah


"There have been several concerts in which they've played all but one track from a given studio album. If you know of any of those, please feel free to amuse yourself and enlighten our community by citing them."

AshesRising, Monte and myself have pointed out this in the past;
10/17/83 - Sugaree, Bird Song, Deal, To Lay Me Down, Wheel...5 out of 6 of the vocal songs from Garcia's first solo album (Loser lost out)

don't think the 4 instrumental selections from that album were ever meant to be performed - Late For Supper, Spidergawd, EEP Hour, An Odd Little Place (all 4 co-written by Kreutzmann)



edit: just noticed Vapors picked Blues For Allah and 8/13/75 - only fair i modify my post to reflect a later "date stamp" after he guessed right first

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

So Eep Hour is what, chopped liver as far as you're concerned?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Apr 25, 2010 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

since i'm being so honest today, haven't listened to it in nearly 30 years - if this is the actual Supper>Spider>Hour suite (?) then S>S is right up there with Revolution #9 and EEP Hour is very Floydesk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kdk4r03BZ8

and now for the bonus trivia question;
WTF is an EEP Hour?

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Isn't it obviously a punning reference to exponents of the irrational number e (e power = eep hour)?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Apr 25, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

brilliant i say!

and to answer your question, no

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

How about this (yes, I cheated here too!):

"Eep opp ork ah ah!", a song from the 1962 second episode of The Jetsons, "A Date with Jet Screamer"

(under "eep" origins at some site...)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Hmmm...you REALLY were serious...

Har, har...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Yes, I figured you of all people would be honorable about it. That was the hard one. Now that you've shown your stuff, care to blank your two messages and let the truly knowledgeable get credit for it? :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Oh, uh--NO WAY! I knew WMDead was one, and I picked May; used the alleged "secret" only to confirm...I am taking full credit! (sorry just realize you said "both messages", only blanked the one...do you really think anyone else would not know about it and use it?).

I think that's fair...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

I remembered the easy one (which you too should be able to get without help), but I'd never even heard about the show you cite till I found it using precisely the method you used to confirm. And lest that seem hypocritical, I don't ever claim credit for knowing all the things I ask about in my trivia questions. As the question-poser, I'm just trying to provide entertainment. My thinking is that there are plenty of triviata that I don't know myself but that at least one member of the prodigious LMA braintrust does. Heck, if I stuck with stuff that I knew myself, stratocaster alone would probably be able to answer all of my questions without half trying!

So do I understand you to say that you thought...hmmm...Workingman's Dead...hmmm...May 1970...then used setlists to search for May 1970 shows that had all tracks? If so, I'm thinking you deserve half-credit anyway, especially since your first intuition turned out to be correct.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Yep, that's what I did...you think anyone else will, without having listened to it lately, looked at the set list here, etc? It was only cause I listened to May so much about a month ago...Isn't that "cheating" just as much--or just luck?

Way too hard my friend, way too hard...just saying.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Hey, I said it was a toughie! The reason I think you deserve at least partial credit is that your first approach requires substantial intuition to narrow the scope of the search, or it would have taken forever.

Everyone else appears to be off watching baseball games this afternoon, but I insist there are people who will consider the easy one to be easy--as will you, once someone reminds you of it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 2:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Ha! Not so...I just checked 12 diff ones...no dice, unless "you know what" is not matching the names correctly, which I fear...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

No--it's there, but your resource doesn't title every track quite right, so you're not finding it. Has it really not occurred to you yet, using your encyclopedic knowledge and good old common sense?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Sorry, Lou--I like trivia games in which it won't be this much work...really, I was serious about not knowing a set list from a single fav show of mine...even most of the 68s! It's just not something stored up there...and I don't know all the albums, except the ones I already tried.

Now, if you want a complete guess, I was thinking AmBea from fall of 70, but Oper/TilMorn were done too infrequently...And, for the first one, GRoad is too rare...likewise, WBotBaby...so, that takes out the early era, and you're on your own!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Apr 25, 2010 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

I was able to rule out Aoxomoxoa right away, both b/c of Rosemary and What's Become. 4-5-69 has all of the other tracks.

I thought AmBeaut might do it, but it doesn't even come close.

I was right in thinking that Wake was promising, but figured Let Me Sing would kill it. Actually Here Comes Sunshine is what's missing from both 9-15 and 9-17-73, which are two of the three shows that come closest. 10-30-73 has all but Here Comes Sunshine.

We Trip doesn't come as close as I'd thought it might (the times they were playing The Golden Road basically didn't overlap with when they were playing Morning Dew), but we're missing so many set lists from that era that who really knows?

Can anyone guess what other three studio albums had all but one track played in the same concert, and can anyone name one or more of those concerts?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

My bad! Did YOU really do it straight up? I couldn't be sure to name a set list from my all time fav shows for crying out loud!!?

BTW, I really am serious; are you implying from memory, not having listened to it in the past week or two, not having looked at the show here at the LMA, you actually KNEW both of these?

This post was modified by William Tell on 2010-04-25 21:05:35

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Apr 28, 2010 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Did anyone ever answer this question? W

asn't there an 87 Dylan & The Dead show where they opened with the entire first side of "In The Dark," bumming out many who saw it as a sell-out (I'm perfectly willing to see it as a lark myself).

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Apr 29, 2010 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

This one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1987-07-04.sbd.miller.101650.flac16

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 25, 2010 1:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tough (?) GD trivia question

Is this the "easy" one?:

05/07/70
Dupont Gymnasium M.I.T. - Cambridge, MA
Set 1:
Don't Ease Me In
I Know You Rider
Friend Of The Devil
Me And My Uncle
Deep Elem Blues
Candyman
Cumberland Blues
New Speedway Boogie
Black Peter
Uncle John's Band


Set 2:
Good Lovin'
Drums
Good Lovin'
Cold Rain And Snow
Dire Wolf
Easy Wind
Beat It On Down The Line
High Time
Cryptical Envelopment
Drums
The Other One
Cryptical Envelopment
Cosmic Charlie
Casey Jones
I'm A King Bee
Not Fade Away
Turn On Your Love Light
Darkness Jam
Turn On Your Love Light